I think we all know that feminists can’t take a joke, so you’re probably shocked, simply shocked, that I’ve even heard of Louis C.K. (OMG, feminists, stop scowling! I know you can take a joke! That’s the joke!)
But here he is, Louis C.K., making an appearance on The Daily Show and continuing to seal his place in my feminist heart (right next to Jon Stewart, obviously).
Quick back story, in case you’ve fallen off the Interwebs recently: Daniel Tosh is now public enemy No. 1, AKA the Voldemort among
good people everywhere feminists after he made an awful attempt at a joke that I won’t bother to repeat here. (Besides, it’s already been discussed. Here, here, and here.) Not to mention, I’m just gonna go out on a limb here and brag about how progressive I am, BECAUSE I NEVER FOUND DANIEL TOSH FUNNY IN THE FIRST PLACE. But of course, that brings us back full circle, considering I am a feminist and cannot understand comedy. Ahem.
Now, on to Louis C.K.!
As he says, “sterotypically speaking, feminists can’t take a joke” and “on the other side, comedians can’t take criticism…they’re big pussies.”
Over at Bitch, Kelsey Wallace writes:
Yes, he still turns it into a joke, but if we’ve learned anything from this Tosh conversation it’s that some rape jokes can be funny, they just aren’t always funny. That is the case with all potential jokes: Not always going to be funny!
I groaned a little at the end of this interview when C.K. brought it back around to the “gender mistake”:
The women are saying ‘here’s how I feel about this’ but they’re also saying ‘my feelings should be everyone’s primary concern.’ Now the men are making this mistake, they’re saying ‘your feelings don’t matter. Your feelings are wrong. Your feelings are stupid.’ If you’ve ever lived with a woman you can’t step in shit worse than that, then to tell a woman that her feelings don’t matter. To the men I say listen to what the women are saying about this. To the women I say now that we’ve heard you, you know, shut the fuck up for a minute. And let’s all get back together and, you know, kill the Jews.
Again, I know it’s a joke, but did it HAVE to be a “Men are from Mars Women Should Shut Up About Their Feelings” joke? I like Louis C.K. because (most of the time) he’s better than that.
On the one hand, we have yet another white male comedian making tired jokes about women and women’s issues. Snooze. On the other hand, we have an influential comedian discussing feminism and rape culture on a popular television show. Yay!
Do we treat this interview as a small feminist victory, or should we expect more? And can we ignore Louis C.K.’s use of the word “pussy” as an insult? Because that kinda undermines the whole “enlightenment” thing.
Personally, I have no problems with any part of his interview, but then again, that’s because I find every thing Louis C.K. says hilarious. So I don’t find anything he says here to be tired; I just find it funny. And to have, as Wallace writes, “an influential comedian discussing feminism and rape culture on a popular television show,” erases any qualms I might have about him using the word “pussy” as an insult. (But I probably wouldn’t have in the first place. I find that word hilarious. And I think 13-year-old boys around the world agree with me here.)
So, “small feminist victory”? I’m gonna go ahead and just say, Victory everywhere: Louis C.K. exists.
Now feminists, it’s time to find yourself a hot date. The first two seasons of Louie are on Netflix.